[CD27]

I have heard quite a bit about astral projection, but i have yet to actually do it. i tend to belive everything that is said about it. because it makes sense to me. i actually have come very very close to actually doing it, but it seems as soon as i get to the very edge i get pulled back in, i guess it may be because i'm frightened about it,

what is astral projection. it is when yo spirit moves out of your physical body and into the astral plane. you're supposed to do this by:

1) resting your entire body, face, nose, mouth, ears, even hair, slowly, chest, (not gonna get too deep their), arms, fingers, elbos, nucles, rist, shoulders, legs, feet, toes, ancles, other spots which i will not identify here. all of these you must be consiouse of at the same time. it doesn't happen instantly. in fact, for me, when i ahd my most episodes of the subject, i was exhausted, so that way my body was tired from some kind of work and my mind itself was fully aware of all things. this is the absolute best state to be in if you want to atral project.

2) once yo have completely calmed your entire body and are thinking of it as a whole and not as any seperate part, breath sloly, calm your breathing. focus on the whistling in your ears, or simply on your breathing. or, another solution is: imagine you floating out of your body. usually that helps.

3) eventually you wil do this, but if you are scared when it happens, it will pull you back in, relatively quickly, i can amount to that. do not be afraid. in fact, you may have already almost done this. have you ever had a time where you were trying to fall asleep for the night. your thoughts were still conciouse, but you were thinking on a subject so that you could sleep. and just as soon as you began to get a visual image of it, you felt like you were falling, very fast. that's what it is. just, don't be afraid, let it happen. the last time this happened to me, which i must say was quite a while ago, i tried to let it happen to me, and actually, it did it more than once, but only twice.

so, if any of you can, if you already have experience in this, help me out will ya? i really want to do this.

[Uncle Martin]

I believe you may be regressing CD,

You do not offer any evidence to support your claims. To believe something because it "makes sense" is absolutely ridiculous. There exists no evidence that I'm aware of that support your claims. Astral projection is an hallucination.

[CD27]

well, if you do not know me, obviously to belive a religion such as christianity as i do, then you msut also kno that i belive it because it makes sense as well..so how is that regressing? and if astral projecting is a hallucination, then so is every single sense you have in your entire body, all of them. because from all of the reports i ahve read on this, all of your senses are intact, and everything you are seeing is real..i find it odd how people can hallucinate going to a place they've never been to and then they ask someone who has, and it is exactly as they visioned it..was that a hallucination as well? plus the fact that i had a dream of the future when i was 6 years old (unfortunately is the only thing i can remember of my past before the age 11) which gave things in greate detail, detail so great, that it even told me that my parents would be divorced in the future...funy, ebcause when i ahd the dream, they were not yet divorced. and that is no hallucination or remembering and making up of thoughts, becaue i can remember 10 minuted before and after the dream, which are highly accurate with hat my family tells me was going on during that time. also, freethikner claims he himself has astral projected, talk to him as well, i'm sure this will be a very fun conversation indeed.

[Uncle Martin]

Yes, FT has said that. I must admit to the same astral projection experiences myself. More times than I can remember, way back in the sixties. AHHH yes, the sixties.

Hint: google-D Lysergic acid Diethylamide.

[alexander]

In astral projection the conscious mind leaves the physical body and moves into the astral body. The astral body is one of seven subtle bodies we all have.


Some people can astral project naturally. Others are afraid to leave the physical body and never are able to astral project. An alternative approach is remote viewing.


In astral projection you remain attached to your physical body by a silver "umbilical type" cord. Some people see the cord and others do not.


You are aware of things you encounter along the way while out of your body.




Remote Viewing is splitting your consciousness to experiencing events in two or more places at the same time and being aware of all experiences.


As reality is compromised of electromagnetic grid programs - the matrix - remote reviewing is in truth moving your consciousness from one grid to another.


In is different than meditation - as you are seeing actual events vs. the symbology of meditation.


There are natural remote viewers and those who take courses to learn this skill.


This is an easy skill for those who already know how to shift their consciousness from grid to grid.


It is well known that there are government projects involving trained remote viewers used to gain access to top secret information. This involves training but anyone can learn to do it.

[Uncle Martin]

Alexander,
Can you provide even one example of repeatable, testable, falsefiable evidence? specifically the case of government projects. I know that many governments of the world are notorious for wasting their taxpayer's dollars on frivolous military research, but I'm unaware of any success with these studies.

[Freethinker]

The answer to this thread is easy.

Astral Projection, is it real?
NO!

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: CD27
I have heard quite a bit about astral projection, but i have yet to actually do it. i tend to belive everything that is said about it. because it makes sense to me.

Yes CD, this does seem to be a common problem for you. Ignorance can be corrected by education. But then you have to be willing to accept facts after you are exposed to them. But we know from your OWN comments, that you don't care what the truth is. You will INTENTIONALLY accept KNOWN lies!

i actually have come very very close to actually doing it, but it seems as soon as i get to the very edge i get pulled back in, i guess it may be because i'm frightened about it,

Or perhaps it is the FACT that it is IMPOSSIBLE?

But don't let REALITY get in your way now!

what is astral projection. it is when yo spirit moves out of your physical body and into the astral plane. you're supposed to do this by:

1) resting your entire body, face, nose, mouth, ears, even hair,

HAIR is DEAD CELLS. Exactly how do you get something that is DEAD to RELAX even more than DEAD?

slowly, chest, (not gonna get too deep their), arms, fingers, elbos, nucles, rist, shoulders, legs, feet, toes, ancles, other spots which i will not identify here. all of these you must be consiouse of at the same time. it doesn't happen instantly. in fact, for me, when i ahd my most episodes of the subject, i was exhausted,

WOW, that "resting your entire body" was that "exaust(ing)"?

I don't suppose you EVER actually read what you write to see if it makes ANY sense?

so that way my body was tired from some kind of work and my mind itself was fully aware of all things. this is the absolute best state to be in if you want to atral project.

Even better, take a nap.

2) once yo have completely calmed your entire body and are thinking of it as a whole and not as any seperate part, breath sloly, calm your breathing. focus on the whistling in your ears, or simply on your breathing. or, another solution is: imagine you floating out of your body. usually that helps.

Have you talked to your minister about this. You will find that REAL Christians would NEVER put themselves into these meditative states. It opens the body to evil spirits.

I know how stupid that sounds. But I am just presenting Christian doctrine. Meditation, including Astral Projection is a PAGAN ritual. Your immortal soul has been tarnished!

so, if any of you can, if you already have experience in this, help me out will ya? i really want to do this.

And suffer eternal damnation?

But let me guess, you are not THAT kind of Christian?

Astral Projection is New Age garbage. NO ONE has EVER proved to have actually experience Astral Projection. All of the claimed APers FAIL COMPLETELY when tested.

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: Uncle Martin
I believe you may be regressing CD,

I'm not sure about that Unk! In many ways, naturallistic religions such as New Age Paganism is less harmful to society than Christianity.

[sanctus]

Before I say what I think about all this astral projection stuff, I just want to correct freethinker, hair isn't dead cell it's a kind of protein.

CD,
you know I also always liked the idea of astral projection, it's something very fascinating and if there wouldn't be the risks of horror-trips I would have taken LSD already a long time ago. But this doesn't mean that it is real, that you actually leave your body, it's just you enhance some parts of your brain to be capable to feel like if you were projected out of you body. This claim I support with the following facts:

• all experiences made until today of people that coul leave their body, showed that they didn't actually leave the body. The experiences wer made thisway: ther were some numbers that the person could only see if he/she floated about 2 meters above the position were their body was; the result was that nobody could tell the numbers

• When people is eptilectic the doctors sometimes separate the left and right brain, to do this they stimulate different parties in the brain to see the "geography" of the brain. Well they did that a couple of years ago in Geneva in switzerland, and when they stimulated a part (located a bit higher than the right ear) the patient said she was seeing herself on the bed

So, I'm soorry to tell you, but you won't be able to leave your body to see what actually is behind a wall, but just what you imagine what is behind.

I f you want to try this, you can also take instead of LSD some psilos (hallucinating mushrooms).